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it otherwise. >> i agree. >> i actually feel like, like it's a shame that michelle obama like focused so much on ingredients and not an cooking. i feel like she missed a great opportunity. >> why? >> because i think would've been much more powerful for her to get people back in the kitchen. than to just be interested in the egregious because like we're saying, it doesn't really matter except what you're cooking. it matters that your cooking. your understand what it takes to feed yourself and that's self-sufficiency and empowerment is so valuable to our culture, you know, and in your family. me, so it has so many ramifications i feel like, that that was kind of -- >> even if you're using like some kind of terrible cheating factory food, like roast chicken come you're still cooking. >> you are still in the kitchen putting her hands into which i think is the first step. >> i think learning to cook is the gateway to having appreciation for fine or ingredients. because if you start cooking you start to realize that food is comprised of multiple ingredients that you can play with them. so if you ta
. betty ford, nancy reagan, barbara bush, laura bush, hillary clinton, certainly. i think michelle obama in all sorts of ways. so i think what the trend here is that as we get closer and closer to the current time, first ladies have a big influence on their husbands. >> host: what was mamie eisenhower's role? >> guest: she said, she used to say i was invited -- in eight years i was in to value office, four times, all four times i was invited. one way their marriage worked was they really did not discuss, you know, nuclear weapons policy or, you know, she felt there was a division of labor, and they actually had quite a good marriage, but it did not rest on being political partners. >> host: did bess truman hate being first lady as much as it seems? >> guest: i don't think it -- i think she protested too much a little bit. although at the very beginning she went right back to independence and did not come back for a long time, and it was very upsetting to her husband. she did not give press conferences. she was very private. one source of this was when harry truman was about to be named v
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